Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:11:25 -0500
From: carol@carolmoore.net (Carol Moore)
Subject: [libs4peace] Reminder - Sign Libs4Peace Petition - up to 59
To: organize-libs4peace@yahoogroups.com ( "Organize!"), libs4peace@yahoogroups.com (Libs4peace ), LPNCpeace@yahoogroups.com ( LPNCpeace), LP-DC-discuss@yahoogroups.com (LP-DC Discuss )
Reply-To: libs4peace@yahoogroups.com


    We're up to 59 signers in 60 hours -- Not
Bad!  And half of you haven't even gotten around
to signing yet!  Here's a rousing endorsement from
a long time libertarian who sent it out to dozens
of people he knows.  Please sign up.
    If we get around 1400 signers it will be 5% of
the membership -- the magic number that we would
need if we ever wanted to challenge a decision of
the LNC. (Which this petition technically does
not.)  But it will show that libertarians want the
party to stick to principle!
   Carol in dc
PS...fundraising appeal to come soon since we have
to pay for our next series of LPNEWS ads.
Meanwhile, if you haven't bought your libs4peace
buttons which until then are paying off the last
add that I paid for, please go to
http://www.libertarians4peace.net
+++++
   Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:15:45 -0600
   From:    "Terry L Parker"
<txliberty@hotmail.com>
See: http://www.libertarians4peace.net/
You don't even have to be a libertarian to sign
their peace petition to the
LNC:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?libs4p77&1

Libertarians are premised on consistency to your
freedom to chose to do
anything EXCEPT initiate, or do a credible threat
to initiate physical force
against the person or justly acquired possessions
of another.  While that
premise allows for an individual choice of
'self-defense' it prohibits
actual or credible threats of initial use of
physical force.

I (Terry Liberty Parker) have been, and continue
to be (and always will be),
an active promoter of consistency to the above
'physical aggression truce'
Some of what I have done over the decades has made
local, national and even
international news from time to time.  I have also
served in various offices
of the local and state Libertarian Party (mostly
mid 1970s to early 1980s).
My libertarian promotion has been essentially
diffused into the local
(Austin, Texas) community for the last couple of
decades; though its effect
reaches beyond this 'heart of Texas'

The 'war on terrorism' is NOT 'self-defense' by
any rationally scrutinizable
argument!

Known liars and cheats (aka: politicians leading
the US govt) have
'asserted' that the 911 attack 'justifies' the
current and proposed US
military invasions as 'self-defense'  They have
not presented credible and
scrutinizable evidence to the public for this
proposition.  Why is the
Libertarian Party officially endorsing unfounded
claims by known liars and
cheats?  They (US govt politicians) have violated
the Constitution of the
United States of America by conducting 'acts of
war' without abiding by the
constitutionally directed process to have congress
officially 'declare war'
against another nation; or issue letters of manqu
and reprisal (the ONLY
other 'constitutional' option).  The current and
proposed initiations of
physical assault upon people innocent of 911
attacks is unconstitutional and
unconscionable.  Why is the Libertarian Party
officially endorsing
initiation of physical assault in violation of its
own founding premise?

It is galling enough to consider what evil US govt
politicians have done in
the name of America.  It is an OUTRAGE that the
Libertarian Party has been,
at least partially, apparently captured by
establishment sycophants who are
devoid of commitment to the essential principles
of non-aggression embedded
in the foundation of the party platform.  When
cornered in discussions of
their apparent inconsistency, they resort to fear
driven rationalizations
that do not withstand scrutiny.  Some even refuse
to discuss it any more
upon being cornered in the argument; or will just
repeat in 'mantra' like
fashion the same baseless assertions that had just
been refuted.  In either
case, not acknowledging or addressing the specific
criticism of their
rationalization.

What is at stake is the Libertarian Party's role
in the world.   It has
been, up till 911, an important instrument for
good.  If it can't be 'saved'
from this attempt to hi-jack it away from its
essential commitment to
promoting the 'physical aggression truce' people
of conscience will abandon
the party; leave it to its establishment destiny.

The Libertarians 4 Peace petition wording is
tentative; not set in stone.
Some have pointed out problems with the current
wording.  But, the current
wording is essentially a 'first draft' for a
statement to be modified and
refined by the new Libertarian Party National
Committee to be elected at the
upcoming National convention.  (see www.lp.org and

www.libertarians4peace.net for more about that)

I urge you to add your name to this petition (or
start AND promote another
to the LNC with the wording you want):

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?libs4p77&1



PeaceInTheHeartOfTexas,
Terry Liberty Parker
AustinVoiceCall 1.512.494.9176
Find 21st Century 'War&Peace' via
'Search' at: www.austin.indymedia.org
Confer at: www.topica.com/lists/LibertyList
And, In Austin Every Sunday 7pm - ?
I host informal discussion of
Libertarian ideas & issues at
Hickory St Grill on 8th & Congress
http://profiles.yahoo.com/txliberty




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